4013. Robert Southey to Walter Savage Landor, 8 May 1823

 

Address: To/ Walter Savage Landor Esqre_/ Florence/ Italy
Stamped: KESWICK/ 298; ANGLETERRE; CHAMBERY; CORRISPZA ESTERA DA GENOA
Postmarks: [partial] F/ 23; 28/ MAGGIA
MS: National Art Library, London, MS Forster 48 D.32 MS 40. ALS; 4p.
Previously published: John Wood Warter (ed.), Selections from the Letters of Robert Southey, 4 vols (London, 1856), III, pp. 388–390.


Your letter arrived this day, & yesterday I received & answered one from Julius Hare concerning your Dialogues.

(1)

Walter Savage Landor, Imaginary Conversations of Literary Men and Statesmen (1824).

The purport of his was to say that Taylor (a man I believe very superior to most of his trade) demurred upon grounds of principle to certain passages, & had, after some previous correspondence with him proposed that either I or Wordsworth should see the proofs, & if we approved of what he condemnd he would be bound by our decision. – Wordsworth is gone to the Netherlands, & I replied without hesitation that I would most willingly take upon myself this responsibility, & expunge whatever act for you in this matter as you would act by me, – taking care that wherever there was an omission the place should be marked.

Longman was desired in December to send you my own

(2)

Southey’s A Vision of Judgement (1821); History of the Peninsular War (1823–1832); The Expedition of Orsua; and the Crimes of Aguirre (1821), originally intended to be part of the History of Brazil and first printed in Edinburgh Annual Register, for 1810, 3.2 (1812), i–l; and a combined second edition of Carmen Triumphale (1814) and Congratulatory Odes. Odes to His Royal Highness the Prince Regent, His Imperial Majesty the Emperor of Russia, and His Majesty the King of Prussia (1814), published as Carmen Triumphale, for the Commencement of the Year 1814: Carmen Aulica, Written in 1814, on the …

& Wordsworths books,

(3)

William Wordsworth, Ecclesiastical Sketches (1822) and Memorials of a Tour on the Continent, 1820 (1822).

& Humboldts Travels,

(4)

Alexander von Humboldt (1769–1859), Personal Narrative of Travels to the Equinoctial Regions of the New Continent During the Years 1799–1804 (1814–1826), no. 1463 in the sale catalogue of Southey’s library; and Researches Concerning the Institutions and Monuments of the Ancient Inhabitants of America, with Descriptions and Views of Some of the Most Striking Scenes in the Cordilleras (1814).

– he has never told me by what vessel they are sent, which he ought to have done, – but they should have reached you long ere this.

I long to see these Dialogues. Upon the question of Catholicism we shall entirely agree. There is a chapter upon the subject in my forth coming view of our Ecclesiastical History,

(5)

Chapter 10 of The Book of the Church, 2 vols (London, 1824), I, pp. 292–330.

– & whatever effect we may produce upon those who are more than moderately inclined to this base & grovelling superstition (as you say Mr Hare is) I think we shall produce some upon those who at present are less than moderately acquainted with its real character. Yet I regret some of its parts.

Your specimen is delightful. Julius Hare indeed speaks of the whole just in such terms as I should expect it to deserve. Upon one great question, that of the improvement of nations thro their governments, I believe think that were I in Italy I should approach nearer to you, & were you in England, or in America you would draw nearer to me. The struggle at present if is between two extremes, both so bad, that if a wish of mine could incline the beam, I should not know in which scale to x cast it.

My first volume is wormwood to the Foxites, & not more palatable to the worshippers of Mr Pitt.

(6)

The first volume of Southey’s History of the Peninsular War (1823–1832). It contained much criticism of the Whigs, whose leader had been Charles James Fox (1749–1806; DNB), for opposing British intervention to help repel the Spanish invaders; but it also did not support every decision made by the government, whose supporters had been led by William Pitt (1759–1806; DNB), Prime Minister 1783–1801, 1804–1806.

I think there is not one feeling expressed in it with which you will not concur. The op single opinion in which you are likely to dissent from me is one which is derived from observation, – in opposition to my wishes, – that old despotisms can better be modified by a single will than by a popular assembly; & that in such countries as Spain & Portugal, a despotic minister (like Pombal)

(7)

Sebastião José de Carvalho e Melo, 1st Marquis of Pombal (1699–1782), Prime Minister of Portugal 1750–1777.

acting in conformity to the spirit of the age, is the reformer to be wished for. I would have governments reformed, as Cranmer

(8)

Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556; DNB), Archbishop of Canterbury 1533–1555 and architect of the English Reformation.

would in all points, & did in most, reform the Church of England. But let individuals & communities err as they may, it is apparent that upon the great scale mankind are improving. But this too may appear differently in Italy from what it does in England.

I am glad to hear of your England children.

(9)

Arnold Savage Landor (1818–1871); Julia Elisabeth Savage Landor (1820–1884); and Walter Savage Landor (1822–1899). They were followed by Charles Savage Landor (1825–1917).

Till we become parents we know not the treasures of our own nature, – & what we then discover may make us believe that there yet latent affections & faculties which another state of existence may develope. My boy is now beginning his fifth year, & is thank God, flourishing & promising as I could wish. My eldest daughter is a young woman, taller than her mother. Time has set his mark upon me, but lays his hand gently, – as yet he has taken nothing from me but the inclination for writing poetry, & threatens nothing at present but my grinders, which he is attacking by regular [MS torn]proaches, sapping & mining. Last summer I was severely shaken by an annual catarrh which for many years has taken up its quarters with me for the whole summer, & last year effected a lodgement in my chest. Since it departed I have used more exercise & a more generous diet, & have kept in better condition during the winter than for the last seven years.

My Colloquies

(10)

Sir Thomas More: or, Colloquies on the Progress and Prospects of Society (1829).

have long been stationary. Yours will give them a fillip, – as far as they have proceeded I am well pleased with them. My Book of the Church will be published in about ten weeks, – perhaps in time to be forwarded to you with your own book.

God bless you
RS.

Notes
1. Walter Savage Landor, Imaginary Conversations of Literary Men and Statesmen (1824).[back]
2. Southey’s A Vision of Judgement (1821); History of the Peninsular War (1823–1832); The Expedition of Orsua; and the Crimes of Aguirre (1821), originally intended to be part of the History of Brazil and first printed in Edinburgh Annual Register, for 1810, 3.2 (1812), i–l; and a combined second edition of Carmen Triumphale (1814) and Congratulatory Odes. Odes to His Royal Highness the Prince Regent, His Imperial Majesty the Emperor of Russia, and His Majesty the King of Prussia (1814), published as Carmen Triumphale, for the Commencement of the Year 1814: Carmen Aulica, Written in 1814, on the Arrival of the Allied Sovereigns in England (1821).[back]
3. William Wordsworth, Ecclesiastical Sketches (1822) and Memorials of a Tour on the Continent, 1820 (1822).[back]
4. Alexander von Humboldt (1769–1859), Personal Narrative of Travels to the Equinoctial Regions of the New Continent During the Years 1799–1804 (1814–1826), no. 1463 in the sale catalogue of Southey’s library; and Researches Concerning the Institutions and Monuments of the Ancient Inhabitants of America, with Descriptions and Views of Some of the Most Striking Scenes in the Cordilleras (1814).[back]
5. Chapter 10 of The Book of the Church, 2 vols (London, 1824), I, pp. 292–330.[back]
6. The first volume of Southey’s History of the Peninsular War (1823–1832). It contained much criticism of the Whigs, whose leader had been Charles James Fox (1749–1806; DNB), for opposing British intervention to help repel the Spanish invaders; but it also did not support every decision made by the government, whose supporters had been led by William Pitt (1759–1806; DNB), Prime Minister 1783–1801, 1804–1806.[back]
7. Sebastião José de Carvalho e Melo, 1st Marquis of Pombal (1699–1782), Prime Minister of Portugal 1750–1777.[back]
8. Thomas Cranmer (1489–1556; DNB), Archbishop of Canterbury 1533–1555 and architect of the English Reformation.[back]
9. Arnold Savage Landor (1818–1871); Julia Elisabeth Savage Landor (1820–1884); and Walter Savage Landor (1822–1899). They were followed by Charles Savage Landor (1825–1917).[back]
10. Sir Thomas More: or, Colloquies on the Progress and Prospects of Society (1829).[back]
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